I confess that my overwhelming emotion on watching Particle Fever was one of regret — regret that my own field, quantum computing, has never managed to make the case for itself the way particle physics and cosmology have, in terms of the human urge to explore the unknown.He blames the media?! No, every single scientist in this field tells glowing stories about the inevitable breakthrus in quantum cryptography and computing. Including Aaronson.
See, from my perspective, there’s a lot to envy about the high-energy physicists. Most importantly, they don’t perceive any need to justify what they do in terms of practical applications. Sure, they happily point to “spinoffs,” like the fact that the Web was invented at CERN. But any time they try to justify what they do, the unstated message is that if you don’t see the inherent value of understanding the universe, then the problem lies with you. ...
Now contrast that with quantum computing. To hear the media tell it, a quantum computer would be a powerful new gizmo, sort of like existing computers except faster. (Why would it be faster? Something to do with trying both 0 and 1 at the same time.)
Lots of scientists over-hype their work, but the high energy physicists and astronomers have scientific results to show. Others are complete washouts after decades of work and millions in funding. String theory have never been able to show any relationship between the real world and their 10-dimensional models. Quantum cryptography has never found any practical application to information security. Quantum computing has never found even one scalable qubit or any quantum speedup. Multiverse theories have no testable implications and are mathematically incoherent.
Of course a conspiracy of lies brings in the grant money:
Foolishly, shortsightedly, many academics in quantum computing have played along with this stunted vision of their field — because saying this sort of thing is the easiest way to get funding, because everyone else says the same stuff, and because after you’ve repeated something on enough grant applications you start to believe it yourself. All in all, then, it’s just easier to go along with the “gizmo vision” of quantum computing than to ask pointed questions like:If the quantum computer scientists were honest, they would admit that they are just confirming an 80-year-old quantum theory.
What happens when it turns out that some of the most-hyped applications of quantum computers (e.g., optimization, machine learning, and Big Data) were based on wildly inflated hopes — that there simply isn’t much quantum speedup to be had for typical problems of that kind, that yes, quantum algorithms exist, but they aren’t much faster than the best classical randomized algorithms? ...
I’ll tell you: when this happens, the spigots of funding that once flowed freely will dry up, and the techno-journalists and pointy-haired bosses who once sang our praises will turn to the next craze. And they’re unlikely to be impressed when we protest, “no, look, the reasons we told you before for why you should support quantum computing were never the real reasons! and the real reasons remain as valid as ever!”
In my view, we as a community have failed to make the honest case for quantum computing — the case based on basic science — because we’ve underestimated the public. We’ve falsely believed that people would never support us if we told them the truth: that while the potential applications are wonderful cherries on the sundae, they’re not and have never been the main reason to build a quantum computer. The main reason is that we want to make absolutely manifest what quantum mechanics says about the nature of reality. We want to lift the enormity of Hilbert space out of the textbooks, and rub its full, linear, unmodified truth in the face of anyone who denies it. Or if it isn’t the truth, then we want to discover what is the truth.
Update: Scott adds:
Quantum key distribution is already practical (at least short distances). The trouble is, it only solves one of the many problems in computer security (point-to-point encryption), you can’t store the quantum encrypted messages, and the problem solved by QKD is already solved extremely well by classical crypto. Oh, and QKD assumes an authenticated classical channel to rule out man-in-the-middle attacks. ... I like to say that QKD would’ve been a killer app for quantum information, in a hypothetical world where public-key crypto had never existed.That's right, and quantum cryptography is commercially worthless for those reasons. Those who claim some security advantage are selling snake oil.
Update: Scott adds:
Well, it’s not just the people who flat-out deny QM. It’s also the people like Gil Kalai, Michel Dyakonov, Robert Alicki, and possibly even yourself (in previous threads), who say they accept QM, but then hypothesize some other principle on top of QM that would “censor” quantum computing, or make the effort of building a QC grow exponentially with the number of qubits, or something like that, and thereby uphold the classical Extended Church-Turing Thesis. As I’ve said before, I don’t think they’re right, but I think the possibility that they’re right is sufficiently sane to make it worth doing the experiment.I would not phrase it that way. Scott's bias is that he is theoretical computer scientist, and he just wants some mathematical principles so he can prove theorems.
I accept quantum mechanics to the extent that it has been confirmed, but not the fanciful extrapolations like many-worlds and quantum computing. I am skeptical about those because they seem unjustified by known physics, contrary to intuition, and most of all, because attempts to confirm them have failed.
I am also skeptical about supersymmetry (SUSY). I do not know any principle that would censor SUSY. The main reason to be skeptical is that SUSY is a fanciful and wildly speculative hypothesis that is contradicted by the known experimental evidence. Likewise I am skeptical about quantum computing.
Update: Scott rpefers to compare QC to the Higgs boson than SUSY, presumably because the Higgs has been found, and adds:
My own view is close to that of Greg Kuperberg in comment #73: yes, it’s conceivable that the skeptics will turn out to be right, but if so, their current explanations for how they could be right are grossly inadequate. ...Spoken like a theorist. He does not want his theorems to be vacuous.
If, hypothetically, QC were practical but only on the surface on Titan, then I’d count that as a practical SUCCESS! The world’s QC center could simply be installed on Titan by robotic spacecraft, and the world’s researchers could divvy up time to dial in to it, much like with the Hubble telescope.
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"In my view, we as a community have failed to make the honest case for quantum computing — the case based on basic science — because we’ve underestimated the public. We’ve falsely believed that people would never support us if we told them the truth:" is hilarious.
'Underestimated the public"??? Yeah, um, so you are a fraud, make false promises you can't possibly keep in order to secure nice cushy funding to keep yourself employed, and then look down on the public as uninformed, even though if they were 'informed' they would have tarred and feathered you. Ok. And why exactly should the public fund charlatans? This is open admission that science is not the main objective, nor truth, or understanding,... funding is. That being the case, the public really should scrutinize big science like any other political process, since it IS a political process.
His field of quantum computing isn't a field, because there are no quantum computers. It's like saying that "my field is Star Trek-style transporters".ReplyDelete
At the same time, there is nothing wrong with science fiction. It has done positive things for society, so perhaps quantum computing research will do positive things for society.
I agree there is nothing wrong with science fiction, but science fiction does not take billions of dollars to write, is never sold as factual science, and does not undermine the public's trust in scientists and their discoveries; Lying about your field of research to attract funding does.
Good point CFT. I was being perhaps too nice. The truth is that this type of extrapolation has been going on for years, the age of the earth, the age of mankind, the age of the universe. There's no way you can check this stuff to see if it's right.Delete
Similar for QC - If QC doesn't work, then it's obviously because we're not trying hard enough, so give us more money. He's got it made. As long as nobody can prove that QC is impossible (which nobody has, as he hasn't given the $200k prize that he promised anyone who does), he gets more research grants working on Star Trek style transporters.
I don't want to say that this research is all for nothing. It will be interesting to do actual experiments which confirm that QC doesn't work.ReplyDelete
It's just that all of this QC stuff is presented as stuff that must work, when there is no evidence that it does work.