I
mentioned Professor Dave attacking Sabine Hossenfelder, and now
here is another:
The Fallacy of Sabine Hossenfelder
Quantverse
Dr. Sabine Hossenfelder is a popular science communicator, with often controversial views. In this video, I have attempted to take a critical look at the rise of Sabine, her involvement in string theory wars, recent controversy, and expert opinions.
she posts a lot of videos. so I am sure she gets some things wrong.
This attacks her on three points.
1. She says black hole information loss will never be measured.
2. She did a video on an unpublished argument about black hole singularities.
3. She believes in superdeterminism.
I agree with her on (1), and on (2) she seemed to be accurately reporting a paper that might be wrong.
For (3), the video relies on Tim Maudlin:
superdeterminism
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explains Quantum Randomness by denying
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statistical Independence
[Hossenfelder] about the
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possible values of the Hidden variables
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think about the hidden variables as
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labels for the possible paths that the
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particle could take say the labels 1 2 3
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go to the left slit and the labels 456
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go to the right slit and the label 7 to
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12 go through both the particle really
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has one of those hidden variables but we
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don't know which then if we measure the
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particles at the left slit that simply
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tells us that the hidden variable was in
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the one 12 three batch if we measure it
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right it was in the 456 batch if we
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measure it on the screen it was than the
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7th to 12th batch no mystery no
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instantaneous collapse no
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non-locality but it means that the
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particles path depends on what
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measurement will take place because the
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particles must have known already when
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they got on the way whether to pick one
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of the two slits or go through both this
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is just what observations tell us and
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that's what super determinism is now you
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may say well drawing lines on YouTube
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isn't proper science and I would agree
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if you'd rather see equations you're
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most welcome to look at my
[Quantverse] instead of
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reading her papers let's see what Tim
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Maudlin, a world leading expert, has to say
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about
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it.
[Maudlin] there are people who for reasons I do
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not fathom, I just literally don't
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understand their reasons, are are so
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deeply committed to
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locality that they're looking for any
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Escape Route. I mean that's more or less
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what we were talking about with these
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with these loopholes with these
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detection loopholes right they don't
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like the idea of non-locality and
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they're looking for any Escape they can
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have from from accepting it and these
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detection loopholes for many years were
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one until the experimentalist just
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closed those loopholes they're gone uh
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so the only other loophole is they look
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at this and they say well I don't want
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to deny locality I guess I have to deny
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statistical
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Independence and the problem with
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denying statistical Independence is that
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it's kind of crazy and it's it's crazy
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in conspiratorial and on top of it you
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know as as you know I've said and other
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people have said it undermines all
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scientific method I
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mean if in order to get out of accepting
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non-locality you
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deny what's required assumptions that
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are required to do
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science that's not a good
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deal right that's a really bad
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deal
I agree with Maudlin that superdeterminism is kinda crazy, and undermines the whole scientific enterprise.
But I would say the same about the
nonlocal quantum interpretations that Maudlin subscribes to. If nature is nonlocal, then the premises underlying much of science are wrong.
The problem is not that Hossenfelder is committed to locality, but that Hossenfelder and Maudlin are committed to hidden variable theories.
Yes, Hossenfelder has kooky views about superdeterminism that the vast majority of physicists reject.
In fairness, she realizes this, and hardly ever talks about those views.
I am all in favor of criticizing science popularizers when they are wrong, but he needs to look up the word "fallacy".
There is no fallacy.
She also has a new video attacking Gisin:
This Physicist Says We’re Using Maths Entirely Wrong
Intuitionist mathematics is the idea that the entire discipline of maths is a mental construct based on human thought rather than a platonic realm of eternal truths. According to physicist Nicolas Gisin, one of this idea’s biggest proponents, that maths is based on human intuition is the reason why quantum mechanics seems so strange. Let’s take a look.
I think she misunderstands Gisin. She does not link to him. Here is a
Quanta article, and
one of his papers.
His gripe is about mathematizing nature, and it applies to classical or quantum mechanics.
In this video,
Gisin attacks her for saying that free will is meaningless and contrary to science, and for her believing in superdeterminism.
He is at the other extreme, and believes that classical and quantum theories are indeterministic.
I partially agree with Gisin, in that I believe in free will, and that the future is indeterminate.
Infinities are not realizable in nature, and neither are real numbers having infinitely many decimal places.
We only observe approximations to reals.