tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148573551417578681.post3182778867803246581..comments2020-02-17T15:30:18.919-08:00Comments on Dark Buzz: Dyson against wave-function collapseRogerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03474078324293158376noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148573551417578681.post-84112882854122706692014-01-29T16:05:07.036-08:002014-01-29T16:05:07.036-08:00I agree that probability is a second-hand calculat...I agree that probability is a second-hand calculation tool, and not a primal cause of anything.Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03474078324293158376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148573551417578681.post-70174197206527549092014-01-29T08:25:31.213-08:002014-01-29T08:25:31.213-08:00Dyson is right.
The only reason he went along wit...Dyson is right. <br />The only reason he went along with it is that anyone who disagrees with this 'interpretation' has been lambasted by the mainstream mathematics community that often does not even understand it themselves, as surveys of mathematicians and physicists have indicated multiple time there is no real consensus of what QM is actually doing on a physical level. Since Dyson has been quite successful without taking 'Copenhagen' as gospel, I'm not sure how a point can be made that he is wrong. No one should be surprised if an 'interpretation' turns out to be wrong.<br /><br />Probability is nothing but a second hand calculation. The very concept of probability depends on other values to be present even before it can be calculated, so it can't possibly be the cause of anything happening. Second hand calculations are not primal causes. It also is not reality any more than an 'average' is an actual person of some kind. Electrons obviously interact all the time with or without your observation, and matter and energy interacts with it as well without man made abstractions informing it's activity. Whether you know where the planets are at a given moment does not matter, they are still there in their orbits moving the way they do with or without your calculation (thank goodness!). Probability is a second hand mathematical calculation modeled to 'resemble' only the outcome of some activity. It is not by any means a valid description of the process of individual small elements of a greater process or actuality, just as the 'class average' is not a person who exists or is in actually in the class at all, just a mathematical calculation used as a reference point in relation to the rest of the entire class. <br />CFTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148573551417578681.post-3783908813344203832014-01-28T08:44:52.296-08:002014-01-28T08:44:52.296-08:00I have no idea why Dyson would say this. It goes a...I have no idea why Dyson would say this. It goes against everything I know about QM.Craignoreply@blogger.com