tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148573551417578681.post2285745835798907572..comments2024-03-27T19:47:13.475-07:00Comments on Dark Buzz: What's wrong with free will compatibilismRogerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03474078324293158376noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148573551417578681.post-92220533859282778872015-10-13T22:24:27.818-07:002015-10-13T22:24:27.818-07:00Country is energy bankrupt. All there is left is ...Country is energy bankrupt. All there is left is money losing fracking and solar subsidies that can never end. No wonder the laughable universities are nothing more than leftist crusaders at this point.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148573551417578681.post-66206858557185200572015-10-13T14:51:18.425-07:002015-10-13T14:51:18.425-07:00Roger,
I am very weary of the whore house science ...Roger,<br />I am very weary of the whore house science is becoming. As long as the political class (government) is primary source of funds for scientific research, science is going to become ever more politicized, and used merely as a state run pseudo religion. It is becoming exactly as Eisenhower fortold. While I am not normally President Eisenhower's biggest fan, he did call it exactly for what it was:<br /><br />"<br />...<br />In this revolution, research has become central, it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.<br /><br />...<br /><br />The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocation, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.<br /><br />Yet in holding scientific discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. "<br /><br />It is this 'scientific-technological elite' I keep my hackles up about. This 'elite' is presently learning how to use the levers of coercion through the guise of unquestionable science. This is fact. It is already happening. Feel welcome to read about it in the Wall Street Journal where it was said...<br /><br />""[a]dvocates of climate regulation are urging the Obama Administration to investigate people who don't share their views... they want the feds to use a law created to prosecute the mafia against lawful businesses and scientists."<br /><br />The RICO act is being fingered to prosecute those who commit heresy against the government's unquestionable scientific positions...because science! I do not think this is going to end well. CFTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148573551417578681.post-70717483061032518362015-10-13T09:40:59.319-07:002015-10-13T09:40:59.319-07:00CFT, I think that you are exactly correct about fr...CFT, I think that you are exactly correct about free will denial. I think similar things about leftist ideological promotion of evolution. While there is overwhelming evidence for most of textbook evolution, the proponents are all to eager to induce you to jump to a nihilism conclusion.<br /><br />Jonathan: Yes, Adobe insists on kerning those "f"s, making cut and paste a nuisance.Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03474078324293158376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148573551417578681.post-68153049469740117152015-10-13T05:31:19.406-07:002015-10-13T05:31:19.406-07:00I see. Your belief in free will is ... very determ...I see. Your belief in free will is ... very determined. As is Roger's proclivity for pasting things copied from PDF files sans correcting the spurious "?"s to "f"s. :)Jon Burdickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02548776058585897717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148573551417578681.post-59062985175561988732015-10-13T05:31:00.688-07:002015-10-13T05:31:00.688-07:00I see. Your belief in free will is ... very determ...I see. Your belief in free will is ... very determined. As is Roger's proclivity for pasting things copied from PDF files sans correcting the spurious "?"s to "f"s. :)Jon Burdickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02548776058585897717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148573551417578681.post-58633929376161369852015-10-13T01:47:18.794-07:002015-10-13T01:47:18.794-07:00The thing I despise most about discussions about &...The thing I despise most about discussions about 'there being no such thing as free will' is the obvious intent of the entire endeavor. The moment a scientist, mathematician, physicist or over-stuffed expert, politician, fearless leader, ad nausea, could lay claim to proof there was no such thing as free will, they would basically open the door to their next eagerly anticipated conclusion: <br /><br />Humans are just things mindlessly going through chemical reactions they have no influence over, thusly, they are not in any special way 'alive'. They are no more actually alive or conscious than water boiling, just more complex in the length of their chemical reactions. <br /><br /> This is the real heart of any such deterministic garbage when it concerns humanity in relation to free will. If people are just long chains of deterministic chemical reactions, then why give a shit what you do to them? Kill people, enslave people, impoverish people, incinerate people, eat people, what does it matter? People are just atoms bopping about mindlessly, who cares if the particular reacting particles are in pile A or pile B or spread about the room like peanut butter?<br /><br /> To attempt to 'prove' there is no free will is to openly court the most evil/destructive/vile kind of nihilism for purposes most piles of delusional carbon atoms I know would find horrifying. It's not like we don't already know what happens when people become pathological, or believe nothing matters, or that they should not care to be responsible for their own actions. Psychologically, the first step to committing any atrocity ranging from murder, to slavery, to genocide, is to not perceive the people you harm as people, to dehumanize them into mindless less than living mechanical things you can manipulate without restraint or consideration for your own amusement or benefit. <br /><br />I would also like to point out, socialists and communists love the idea of there being no free will and frequently salivate over it's imminent demise. A belief in the absence of free will justifies pretty much everything they do and believe in their revisionist progressive worldview, since they love to claim people can't help themselves or think for themselves or take care of themselves without an overlord expert's control (except for themselves of course!), and thusly take over other people's lives and resources so they can pretend to be the benevolent all knowing God they claim so fervently no to believe in. CFTnoreply@blogger.com