tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148573551417578681.post5728221754771570680..comments2024-03-18T10:15:25.269-07:00Comments on Dark Buzz: Copenhagen more coherent than many-worldsRogerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03474078324293158376noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148573551417578681.post-31905359836497991822012-10-13T19:33:57.890-07:002012-10-13T19:33:57.890-07:00That's right. Stick to what we know is right, ...That's right. Stick to what we know is right, and label everything else speculation. MWI is wild speculation.Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03474078324293158376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148573551417578681.post-84866697835721214802012-10-13T19:20:28.246-07:002012-10-13T19:20:28.246-07:00I used to be opposed to the "shut up and calc...I used to be opposed to the "shut up and calculate" approach. Then I saw the light when I realized that it is easy to invent stuff to make anything make sense if one is imaginative enough, even if it's wrong. So it's better to concentrate only on what we know is right and just "shut up and calculate".Craignoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148573551417578681.post-66033354144781255672012-10-13T09:08:34.729-07:002012-10-13T09:08:34.729-07:00The quote "Shut up and calculate" is due...The quote "Shut up and calculate" is due to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Mermin" rel="nofollow">David Mermin</a>, even tho it is often attributed to Faynman or Dirac.<br /><br />I agree that Carroll's theological skeptidism is hard to reconcile with his belief in MWI.Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03474078324293158376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148573551417578681.post-37671901655401378502012-10-13T00:37:57.270-07:002012-10-13T00:37:57.270-07:00I believe Richard P. Feynman is the source of the ...I believe Richard P. Feynman is the source of the quote... problem is, calculating something is completely different than comprehending or understanding what you are calculating. As with computers, garbage in- garbage out no matter how accurate your calculations. Feynman didn't really want to understand the mechanical underpinnings of physics, and openly discouraged people from trying to do so, just as Heisenberg and Bohr did. I am reminded of the Great and Powerful Oz telling Dorothy, "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..." it's just the same old logical fallacy, 'the appeal to authority' dressed up in complicated maths to scare away the curious or skeptical. Sad truth is, science and physics has been losing logical coherence for quite some time, Bertrand Russell in 1930 said " The desire to make an intelligible system out of it [the world] is an outcome of fear, in fact a kind of agoraphobia or fear of open places.", which is in effect an admission of defeat and an abandonment of reason and understanding. To do any actual science of any kind, you must first assume the universe is intelligible, otherwise, if the universe is unintelligible science and reason are not possible or meaningful, and you shouldn't call yourself any kind of scientist.<br /> If Sean Caroll truly subscribes to MWI, then he is a hypocrite, as he seems to enjoy bashing the existence of a God or any kind of faith, yet subscribes to a theory that admits that everything exists in some other infinite number of alternate universes... just not this one.<br /> It's Funny how people who seem to want to believe in an infinite number of universes they can't observe, look down their noses at people in THIS universe who believe in things they can't observe.Christian Takacsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148573551417578681.post-20468896172323878822012-10-10T09:18:54.073-07:002012-10-10T09:18:54.073-07:00I like the "shut up and calculate" appro...I like the "shut up and calculate" approach.Craignoreply@blogger.com